This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 3,936 from Monday 4 September 2023. Today's show is entitled, HPR Community News for August 2023. It is part of the series HPR Community News. It is hosted by HPR volunteers and is about 57 minutes long. It carries an explicit flag. The summary is, HPR volunteers talk about shows released and comments posted in August 2023. Hi, everybody. My name is Ken Falon and you're listening to another episode of Hacker Public Radio Today. It's Community News for August 2023. And joining me this evening is, hello Dave Morris here. Hi Dave. How are you doing? I'm doing fine. Thank you. Yes, yes. It's quite mild. Warm and pleasant in Edinburgh for a change no more rain at the moment. I must say I'm not feeling very well today, so I would like to keep this short if possible. So for those of you who don't know Hacker Public Radio is a community podcast where the shows are contributed by people like you, go to the about page for more information on HPR. And this is Community News show where we go over all the shows that have been posted in the last month. So you can basically get an idea of what's being happening, shows that you might have missed. And we also discuss anything that's happening in the community. So Dave, can you introduce the new host, please? Yes. We have one new host this month and it's Fred Black, who we heard from being talked to by his father. I think he's focused last month, so yeah, welcome, welcome on board. Very, very good. So what we'll do now is go through the shows that have been aired. And the first show we wanted to discuss is episode 3912, which was an emergency show. It was Tom and Roy Boss and this was Shane Shannon given us a test of South Africa with some local tea and jerky. Very good. Yes, yes. Roy Boss was all the rage in these parts, one point, because McCall Smith, the guy who wrote the latest number one detective agency from Botswana, kept talking about it. So a lot of people in Edinburgh, I think, us really over the world, he read his books, drink, drank it. It's quite nice. It's nice. I drink exclusively now as my tea of choice and it doesn't contain any caffeine, so it's a nice warm refreshing drink and you can go to bed afterwards. Yes. It's got quite a nice sort of fruity, fruity taste, so it's one of which I like. So the following day we had lurking prior to Q&A, and this again was from the reserve Q and basically I, you know, some background to lurking prior, and I didn't know what an M.M. was until I listened to the show, should we give him a spoiler, Dave? Well, it does say in the notes, it's not a penis, it's not a colour penis, that's for sure. Well, there was a nice interesting background in start-off in the Navy, et cetera, that's a bit of a hint for anyone who can get it. Yep, it was, as we were saying, the dayning, I was a bit surprised to hear his history, it was good to know. And again, we had another reserve show, how to deal with blisters, and this was a technique by D&T, and oddly enough, I heard of this one many times before, and I've used it once or twice myself, so it does actually work. I never heard this. My mum was a nurse, before I was born to in the second world war, and her technique was to learn, so blister, with a sterilised needle, just put it in a flame to sterilise it, and then let the blister leak out and then put a plaster or a bandage or whatever, whatever, the technology was at the time to just keep the thing, I mean, being a nurse who was quite infection, conscious and certain, conscious, that's the word, thank you. So yeah, yeah, but I've used that technique, I never heard of this one quite like this, but certainly deflating them helps a lot, and not taking the skin away, also, yes, oh yes, no, don't do that. And then the reason we've had so many emergency shows of late is that what we've been doing, a slight change of policy, where, up until this point, when there have been free slots available in the queue, some of our long-time hosts have been rushing to fill the slots. So what we've decided to do now is rather than do that, we're releasing shows from the reserve, what was the emergency queue into the reserve queue, and there actually was a question about that, and I completely forgot to forward it onto the mail list, but I'll do that hopefully next week, before you hear this, hopefully. So back to the point about the reserve queue, the emergency queue now is called the reserve queue, so when you upload your show, the option of scheduling a slot or putting it into the reserve queue, when you put it into the reserve queue, Dave and I decide when to put it into the schedule. So it could very well be that we tend to work from a first come for a show, but quite often some hosts will upload four or five episodes to the reserve queue, and therefore we like to spread it out if there's four slots like this, behind each other we'll tick the first show from one host, then we'll skip over to the next first show from the next host, et cetera, but basically when you put them to the reserve queue, we decide and you don't complain about it. If you want to schedule us, if you do want to decide, if you don't want us deciding for you, sorry, but for you today, if you don't want us deciding for you, then you schedule the show yourself, we don't care, then you schedule the show yourself, and if you follow the scheduling guidelines that's absolutely fine as well, did I miss anything there, Dave, and I don't think so, no, no, I think you've covered it, and yeah, I think that's quite a nice workable way of achieving things, and I was people fully aware of what the reserve queue is for, and now we're going to use it, so which you've just explained, so that's great. Yeah exactly, so and I think this is kind of working already, I've seen some people submit shows because we have dipped into the emergency queue, so we've had a few hosts coming back to us, and we've had a few first-time hosts as well, so I think it's making the issue more visible to people, and added to that as we've also, I don't know if it's in the annual the business Dave, but we also had a slight delay and uploading one of the shows to the internet archive, no, it isn't in the air, I can really forgot. Okay, so they are quite often under attack, under DDOS attack now, and sometimes as busy or than others, so we're leaving at least five episodes, five to seven episodes in the future, if there are slots in the upcoming week, we're filling them, that's kind of our policy now, so that we have enough time to be able to deal with shows not being posted. Currently, totally reliant on the internet archive for our media hosting, we will be working on that in the future as well, indeed. Okay, and Mr. X had a reserve show called Why The Hell is My Audio Slipping, and waffle it may be, but it was interesting to see how he was able the different types of attenuation. I personally couldn't tell the difference, were you able to? No, no, I couldn't either, and I think to be fair, Mr. X himself mentioned in email I had with it, because we're meeting up soon to record a show that he couldn't tell himself, although when it was on his PC, it was quite clear, but something happened along the way to make it less so yeah, I think it goes through the HBR conversion process, so we convert everything out to the role PCM file, and then put it back together again, so yeah, Lyle is obviously bedness, adding us the wall at this point, or as didn't sound expert. So, anyway, moving on, following day we had the community news, and there was one comment on that, and that was from DNT, who commented, Grim for their clock, had a great laugh, a tense description of the popular environment, which to enjoy one of Spoon's shows. I think it's something about sitting in an armchair, smoking a pipe in front of a ticking grandfather clock, because I'm into that fact anyway. Yeah, exactly, exactly, needing to think about the shows, was the idea, pondering in a Sherlock Holmesian way, perhaps, and speak of the devil, one of Spoon's had a response to permission tickets, which was the next show, hopefully a useful provocation in response to the recent intriguing show by another HBR host, and yeah, this was DNT's show, sorry, DNT's show, in response to one of the Spoon's, in response to one of Spoon's, in response to one of Spoon's, right, thank you. Do you want to do some comments? Yes, and gives a comment to the shows, he says, breaking the spell, I look forward to including responses to some of the points you've made into future episodes. Taxation can compel efforts to satisfy state orders by exceeding to employment, but the extent to which private citizen can refuse legal tender is a measure of their freedom. A lot of trigger words in there, of course, to avoid collapsing back into money to approval, though, I aim to report on some accessible tools. DNT replied to that comment, going, looking forward to it. In the interim, I shall procure a grandfather clock. Yes, yes, I need to do a show on it, with it ticking. And DNT, had another show today, EMAX configuration part three, which is his last in the episodes of Let's Go through every single package installed in his EMAX configuration. Yeah, I'm a little calm and stubborn, so no, I find it fascinating. Not that I read the details a bit, but just hearing how it's all put together is rather intriguing. So yeah, it's good to know how these things are made. I find it most interesting. Yeah, EMAX is a mystery, is a mystery to me, I must say. Yeah, I've never dealt that deeply. When he got so many brain cells, I couldn't devote them to that one as well. Well, it was to win. So the following day at 39, one nine, how I hacked my voice to Catorito talks about what she's doing to change her voice. It's been quite a few comments on us, first of all, most by one of Spoon's. Morphic resonance is the title. Some years ago, I met someone who had been smoothing the staccato out of their voice. This is where you correct my pronunciation of that, Dave? Yes, Catorito is. Thank you. Thank you, Steve Catorito out of their voice. I noticed how some people Yankees their emphasis around while others map layers of little thing, meaning almost musical with but without singing. I also noticed how speaking a different language presents an opportunity to shake out some vocal habits. That's a very interesting comment actually. One thing I did notice when a move to the Netherlands originally was when talking to the school teachers in my kid's schools, they were switched to English about the time I couldn't speak Dutch so that it switched English. It was funny, you could do go straight into your nostril again accent, just like that, or there you go. You could tell, oh yes, I was, I was in Cambridge for 14 years, learning my vocabulary. I then back into the local Dutch accent here, it was quite funny. And now it's amazing. And now all the kids just speak with a Californian accent, my God. Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes, that's a, it's pretty common across the world, I've been mentioned in the English speaking, speaking areas, YouTube has a lot of tons of or, or a TikTok. Anyway, you do, uh, Twitter, Twitter, some response, little thing. That's a, that's good advice, little thing, a voice, a little thing comma, a voice that raises and falls, is often perceived more feminine than a steady one. It doesn't change pitch that much. Other slightly related terms uptalk, where pitch raises slightly towards the end of a sentence, making a statement zone more like a question, up to eyes of a gender. Yeah, uptalk is often perceived feminine, although it's not exclusively feminine trait. Yeah, love it. I know a lot of Australians do that with every sentence, it's got that uptalk thing at the end. Yeah, there's people on YouTube who do it. I think they probably have been told, maybe you should stop doing that a little bit because it is quite odd because there's no, there's no meaning in that raised part of the sentence, it's just a, just a happy, I think. But in your frame of reference, Steve, in my frame of reference, exactly. Oh, yes, because it does have meaning in the way some Europeans speak or English, because speak. Don't they? Yes. D&T says hacking your voice. This was an amazing and completely unknown to me. Also, thanks for sharing that YouTube channel. Thanks. And Tertos says you're welcome. You're welcome D&T. I'm glad you found this episode interesting. That YouTube channel goes much deeper in the details. There's a cool video where she's playing back voice samples from the past. So yeah, cool. And from hacking your voice to mozing around an RV trip in recreational vehicle trip in the southeast USA. This, of course, is a hookah. It's part of the travel series. And this is where they toured the southwest, the southwest US and visited some NASA facilities quite a long time ago that this was posted. Yep. Yep. This is in planning for that point in the history of it. They'd not actually taken the trip yet. But yeah, the planning is very interesting. There's a lot to think about. Huge lot to think about. So if you're in your, you're towing a large vehicle, like that, you know, something like that. Something like that. Some heel to come and close, some bridges you can't go under. Those types of things. You know, that's fascinating stuff to think about. Yeah. It sounds like some. So I'm British. You can't climb. So I'm really impressed you. Absolutely. I don't know for this. Follow me. That's a hookah's theme. So I'm obviously. A hookah, the musical. John Carter of bars, which was the book. And also was kind of cool. They had the author or not the author, but the narrator from Librevox on and that added fantastic elements to this whole thing. It did. Yeah. Yeah. Very, very interesting. I wouldn't have expected the show to have turned out the way it did. I found it quite riveting. I have read maybe all of those books. You know, one in books. I'm not a great audio book listener. But yeah, yeah, the analysis of them and the comments. And also Marks didn't get his last name, did he? Mark. Mark the the the the narrator. We his his insights were were very, very interesting indeed. So Kevin O'Brien comments, hearing 5150. He was a pleasant surprise to hear 5150 again. He was a good friend, even though I only saw him a conferences. I miss him. And did he say he had invited Tracy Hulls to join the book club. Tracy is a good guy too. I thought I had a reference to it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was gone. Yeah. 1550. Oh, his audio is so his his his his network was so hard. That was so brings back everything. Oh, yeah. The number of times he was, you know, suddenly cut off in mid sentence and stuff. All the things I listened to is listened to him on on several sub podcasts. And yeah, it was such a such a shame for him. And the following day, we had episode 3 9 2 2 by Tray and it was selling key. And it's a brief history of the term selling key as a plight amateur radio. Do you ever come across this one before Dave? I had never come across this before no, no, no, I do know a number of people who into amateur radio, but never heard heard it. Does he mention his he's lost recently lost his friend and mentor? That's his his hand at the end is it? Yeah. Okay. Me for YD and that and that's the stuff which I really understand. Seven threes is a is a greeting and VA is I don't know what that abbreviation is and then EEM means over enough. Yeah, very sad, very sad. It's a yeah. It's a term that means the key is silent. I EEM was code key because the person associated with it is past armatures, which is very, very sad. It's what in as amateur radio has been gone around for more than a hundred years, it has more than any other community had to deal with this basically, this issue, the inevitable death that awaits us all. And when I came into amateur radio first, I could not understand, you know, he's turned his key, SK and in all of the magazines, but the the Dutch and English ones, you have that you know, a section of people who turned silent key in the last month or so. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's actually, that's quite, quite charming in it's way, you know, it's sad, but it's also good that there's that sort of process of memory of people like that. And quite often you'll have the widow of, you know, handle who recently turned silent key is selling off the equipment to raise money for some hospice or other, that's quite often, you'll see that sort of thing gone past. And to Katoar, so says, my condolences, I'm sorry for your loss, also interested in learning about silent key, I wasn't aware of that before. Yeah, and love bug, who is also an amateur radio, um, in the US, my condolences, he says, I'm sorry to hear of Michael KV for YD's passing. Everyone in the amateur radio community mourns his passing. It's never nice to hear of new silent keys. Thank you for looking after the administration of his records. 7 3 D E Dave N7 T L B, which is Dave Saddle. Okay, let's follow that with some guy in the internet chatting to Bumblebee about meal preparation. And this was, you know, we're getting the essence of HBR here, changing your voice, meal preparation, silent key, you know, this is, this is HBR right here this month, I think. Yeah, a lot of these are my very good tips. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is great. I enjoyed this a lot. This was the, the, the episodes, I think we've said before many times the episode where people are discussing stuff and chatting to one another, um, some of the best. And this, this was very good. It was very, very dynamic and interesting. Lots of good tips and, um, organizational advice and so forth. So yeah, very, very good. I enjoyed it, Matt. A lot. And as it happens, uh, we have decided to do something similar to this. Not a lot of the tips that Bumblebee has given, we have already implemented over the years. So, um, when I were trying out meal preparations just at the weekend and then having them ready for the week for the entire family, because we have, uh, days where we're working for more work and working from home. And, uh, she made us now on the trends. So she's together, uh, uh, intermittent schedule. Yeah, yeah, and having all that sort of stuff prepared ahead of time. And, uh, just waiting to be, uh, deprosted and, and he in up and stuff is, is, is great. Yeah, pop it into your bag and bring it into work. And it's, yeah, it's pulled out by the time you were ready to use it. Yep. I don't know if you've done stuff like that, but uh, I don't do that anymore, because, uh, yeah, whatever reason. Good, good, good. Operator had a mass quick tips for August 23. He obviously wants to get through his huge database. I might do something like this myself. Lots of great little tips in here. Uh, some of which I'd never heard of before, and some I use a loss already. Yeah, it was a lot to, uh, a lot to come back to and, uh, and ponder. But, uh, yeah, there was, there was some, there obviously some, some real gems in there. I haven't dug back in but, uh, but I will process this, this, this things there that I need following up, as far as I'm concerned. Now, some of them I would never, uh, I do, if he, he has written, uh, streamed to text with keyboards. I, some of them I not seen before, and the yik text, uh, keyword extraction. I think he already did a show on that. So I've solved the same issue, but doing it a different way. It's kind of, I'm trying to say. Anyway, let's move on. There were no comments on that. As yes, then we had Daniel Pearson's with uncommon tools and social media, uh, V-mix to record his videos and then premiere and then moved over to one two. Yeah, lunchy about, uh, video editing and stuff here. He was talking and a bit about social media. He's been off Facebook. He said, but he's he's going to go back again. He thinks because he's losing touch with friends, but if I'm not being there, which, yeah, yeah, that was simple to sympathize with. Yeah, that's what I've affected. There you go. Yep. Yep, indeed. Now the next day we had Cara to do, by HyperNike and there were two comments. I don't know. Is it your turn or mine? I'll do this one. I like it. Um, yeah, coming from Tray says, thank you for sharing. A long time ago, as a young adult, I studied, I studied, take Wondo, TKD for many years. Eventually earning my brand belt, taught me discipline and forced me to develop a level of physical precision. I'd been lacking. Sadly, life events intervened and made discontinued by training. A couple of decades later, I tried ishineuro karate, but I struggled to unlearn stances and techniques, which were ingrained of my muscle memory. For fun, I tried to work through, tried to work through some of the TKD poomsai forms of the equivalent of Qatar, and I remember several of them. Time to get those old bones moving again. Thank you for sharing. And HyperNike says, you're welcome. So from the reserve queue, we had an audacity update for 23, 0, 7, 0, 2. And this is one actually, if I had spotted it, I would have recommended that a hooker put it into the main queue, cause reserve queue should be just for shows that are not time dependent. So this is about the state of play, an audacity from the July 2023, which wasn't too long ago, but even so. Yeah, yeah, interesting to hear it. I wasn't aware of that. I don't keep up to date with audacity that much. I just use it when I need it. So yeah, I think it's been going through some funny, funny times, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. But I found a YouTube video where I was trying to analyze the situation of audacity in relation to what's the other one called? The clone of it, it was names escaped from it at the moment, which I will recommend at some point, because it seemed to cover, it filled in gaps for me anyway, maybe it would do the same for others. Okay, following the some guy in the internet, it confuses everyone with some bashing nonsense. This was a fantastic episode just of some of his functions. The way he approaches approaches problems are becoming a lot less strange now that he has done so much more shows. Yeah, yeah, it's got some interesting approaches to things. I just find it most interesting to see how different people solve problems, because you can, you know, if you go to solve things yourself, you're often fixed in a rut of habit or something, previous experience, see somebody else attack like from an entirely different, maybe set of habits, or just a different mode of thought, is fascinating, because it opens doors for you, I certainly thought this show did that. Yeah, fantastic. Do you want to do trails coming? Yep, Trace says, good heavens. That must be copyright. Thanks for sharing this awesome show. Always good to see how different people approach similar tasks. D&T goes, good heavens, lots of exclamation marks. Several laugh out loud moments there with some guy in the internet here. The one I would clip and attach my friend Fridge's C in open source, we provide you with the tools that if you don't do not specifically say, do not do not know the entire net is to this. You will then download the entire internet. Thanks for setting up the automatic transcription shows. You are. Classic. Absolutely. It's true, isn't it? It's true. It's true. It's all about, it's like the old joke that I constantly try out, you know, is it Laurel and Hardy when I know of my head you hit it? And if you say that to a computer then you're definitely going to get clouted on the head. It will go for the simplest analysis of that situation. So yeah, it's part, it's that type of thing, so the following day we had some experiences with different north apps and there's about apps to store marked down by Lee. Lee was the one who submitted the show about the local talking newspapers back in April 2022. Yes, yes, I knew I encountered the name before in the HBO context and I also looked it up. Yeah, that was a very interesting show. And this one I was amazed how many note applications he found. I really got to go and look at some of those. But yeah, it could be, it could be very useful in preparing HPR shows and laptop thing. I thought also the reason for moving off them and continuing on with them was also quite interesting. It's just, yeah, very good synopsis of somebody's trail of thought journey. Yep, yep, good show, next one. So the next day we had a hooker playing civilization to test of time and yeah, gone through the game. Did, did you get odd audio on this show? Because my, my, my phone running, um, whatever it is you run around phones. I can't remember names today. I'm having problems recalling and tenipot and tenipot. I wanted to call it audacity. Um, it would only play this audio when the screen was was on as soon as soon as it timed out it went into a dialect mode. I wonder if somebody said there was some issue with the show with shows. I may be the copy I have was downloaded very soon after it was uploaded. Yeah, I've got the future, future's feed on my phone. So, um, so I'm assuming that is the problem. I'm actually retryed, redone loading it to see what effect it has, but does that ring a bell to you? Yes, we heard an issue with audio and we fixed it by, uh, by removing socks from the chain and relying entirely enough at hand pick. Okay. And who could show would have been one of the, you know, they're all posted way in advance. So, they may not have got that changes. Yeah. Yeah. So, the, uh, I should go and read down on anything that, uh, who, from that sort of era and terms of a hook of stuff, perhaps. Yeah. Okay. Good. Okay. Um, the next day was what instrument was played in H.P. or 39 0.5. And I was very glad to find out the answer to that question. I, yeah. I answered the quiz that, uh, to 72 posed on, on, um, matrix. And I did, I didn't know it was a nickel harpa. Uh, and like, because I can't remember where I found out about it. It might have been, um, a Swedish, uh, person I've been chatting to about musical instruments or something, you'd said, oh, yeah, our national instrument is, is this. And, uh, it's related to the hoodie, which is a, you know, an instrument I particularly enjoy. So, yeah, yeah, but that was great. It's, it's a weird, weird instrument. And, uh, it's, yeah, it's good to, good to hear somebody talking about it and, um, and playing it. Excellent. And I thought this was, uh, taking the, taking the Wikipedia article, which has been the pretzels, uh, and reading it out, uh, was a good way because of a supplemented, as he was reading the article, he was supplementing it with his own knowledge as somebody who wasn't playing it. So, it's, uh, what's nice? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was fascinated by the fact that he was obviously holding his, his instrument there. And occasionally you just heard sand thinger again string. And, you know, it's made it very, very real. Yeah, so you don't get from Wikipedia. And to see, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's, it's a pretty amazing instrument. But, uh, yeah, there's a YouTube channel I follow that, uh, a German lady who, uh, called us a Patigardi, um, who, uh, was trying to, to get back into using Holy Gurdies for sort of folk style, folk rock type of type of music. She had one built and went told us all about how it was made and now it worked and everything. I found it absolutely fascinating. Not that everyone to play one looks really, quite challenging. That's, uh, yeah, fascinating instrument. I should, um, point to the, uh, to the YouTube video at some some point earlier. I've just gone to the, to the page now, right there. Seems very much up my street. Um, and the next day, Fulke, give us a show on iNXI, which is a command line system information too, where he chastised us Dave, our lack of knowledge called us noobs for not knowing about us. You're so new. He did. Oh, he did. I don't know why I did this job really, I don't know. And, uh, it's the ending of your bonus, Dave. Yeah, yeah, I, I felt, well, well, slapped about there and, uh, and told Gunstand in the corner and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. No, I, having, maybe seen the show come up, I thought, well, just in check that, install it. It's actually really nice. I like it a lot. It's not as pretty as the one I, I used to use, but it's, in fact, it's packed to the information. So yeah, definitely recommend it. I don't know, just, well, I was doing the RNA and nearly burnt my shirts. Thank you very much, Fulke. Because it's, uh, a DNF install INXI away. So it's not a store by default, which is probably why it's not coming up on the fedora forums as such. As much I don't know if it's installed on the DNF but it was really nice just to be able to, I use it this afternoon to check the status of my battery, uh, from the console. It's very, very good. It's could be added to my Ansible install script. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. It's definitely one that you, you'd want to use frequently. I would suggest. Um, so yeah, it's, uh, it's, it's fascinating to, uh, to see stuff, uh, telling you about. Yeah. Yeah. And in a different way from other other tools, but in, in, in a different level of detail too. Yeah. I, no, it's, it's, it's kind of cool. I use, uh, I've normally used LSHW, uh, this hardware and, uh, another tool that isn't installed by default, but it produces a text file and then I just refer to the text file, uh, when I need to. But, um, that's more a static called my system is. This is more telling me what my system is now. Very, very good. I'll be using it a lot. Indeed. Following day was planning for a planner, uh, some guy in the internet and bumblebee discuss this bound planners agenda's plans and more. And for those of you, and I must say, I was one of them thinking, well, I don't think I'm going to get a lot out of this show. And at the end, I was going, what? You're cutting this into, I need to wait for the next part of that, that download the second part and listen to that straight away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I suspected that I would be, uh, rooted and I was, it was, it was, it was really good. The, the disc band planners, not a thing I've ever come across, um, not sure. I don't, I don't, I don't go looking at stationary sites as much as I used to. I don't got a stationary shop as much as I used to. But, um, yeah, I've never seen things, though. It's what I've been looking for in particular. But it looks like a really nice design, uh, poorer, for a, uh, a ring binding system, a binding system, shall we say. Um, and, uh, yeah, you can, you can take the pages in and out quite easily and, and that's everything. Yeah, I've seen them before, but I didn't see them referred to it as that. No, no, the, the, the, the shape of the ring is such that it fits into like a T-shaped slot on the paper, which fascinates me. I don't have any time you can move the paper in and out before it gets a bit raggedy around the, round the slot, uh, still. It's pretty good. So, shall I do the coming up from tray? Thank you for sharing, says tray. I love the way people like you, you all stay so organized. I've struggled with organization all my life, tried everything from cheap planners to Franklin bracket's expensive with little success. I've initially converted my Franklin planner to keep flight notes and check this from my general aviation days. The best I can do now is using Google Calendar, Google Keep, please keep the plane to throw minimum, and good old stenopads for note-taking, which I'll transcribe the important bits later. Thank you for sharing so much excellent advice. You both rock. And my, uh, King's, uh, King's, is he secret? I think so. Yeah, so I take. Interesting topic. I enjoyed this like tray. I have not taken down at work, but realize again with this episode like tray that note and planning for my personal life is lacking. I like the idea of using a planner for both the planning and not taking and mid-try that. There you go, dude. Yeah, it's great. I like this. It's some, yeah, I could also learn stuff. I've certainly done this type of thing at work. I think I designed my own sort of logbook page and then put it in a ring binder. So, you know, you could put the date in the time and and priority level for things that you wrote down about and stuff. But, uh, do we just bits of paper that's got stuck on a shelf and never got used, but it felt like I was doing something useful. But, uh, yeah, but I've never done that sort of thing at home. You done that. When I first started working, I used to get from the station who covered these band notebooks, you know, like A4 size notebooks. And then every day I would write down stuff about today I installed a blur on here and today I screwed up totally and I had to go and fix what I had broken and stuff like that. So, I forgot then there's a pile about, I don't know, half a meter tall of these books at this. I don't know quite why I did it. It just felt like a way of concentrating my thoughts at the time. And maybe I learned something, I don't remember going back to look at them very often. Um, in case it was a, unless it was a case of, what did you do last Monday? Yeah, yeah. And I could answer it, but yeah, yeah, it's, it's a sort of, um, write things down and get it in your head type of type of thing I think for me. But yeah, fascinating. So the following day, last show of the month, we had Crusader Crusader King's two, uh, Bow's is strategy game, which, uh, also known as Bow's Crusaders is Bow's, other empires that existed as well. And how basically we're working through the gameplay and how it works. Very interesting. Um, that's about it. That's all I have to say about that. Yeah. Yes, it's hard to, uh, to understand in detail with the, you know, you can't see it and you can't experience it, but it's understood. It's understood quite a challenging and, uh, complicated and they're for entertaining thing. Um, yeah. My daughter has been telling me I should consider getting a games machine steamed egg. I don't know, I'd be playing Crusader King's two, even if it's available, but something to, uh, to do other than sitting at computer all day. Sit somewhere else with a computer, uh, something like that. But I don't know, is there, um, maybe I should be my late stage of my life getting into games a bit more again, to, uh, to see if that can sort of take me away from reality for a little while. She doesn't want you working on HPR. It's a simple thing. Yeah. She wants to, she wants to, she wants to, she wants to, she wants to, she wants to, she wants to work like you do for HPR. It's probably a good idea to get another hobby to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's, she was making me a list of, we should try this game in this game in this game in this game. So, uh, not sure that this type of game would actually be on the list where there'd be a whole bunch of other ones. I quite like the sci-fi ones if I can get into them. So, yeah, I might do, might do, might not, but I might do. Okay, uh, let's go through those all the shows. We have five comments from previous shows, and this comment was on a hookashore playing the original civilization and tukitori, or says this was bringing back memories. I used to play a civilization a lot, and was still, and it's still a very awesome game. In my very first game, things went horribly wrong, and when I finally got wrong to having chariots, my neighbors just demolished them with their texts. I certainly had been focusing on the wrong things at the time. I'm thinking that we should get our daughter to give it a try to an experience that will more turn to behavior. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good to think of, uh, yeah, you're probably going to get into these things. So, if they have a happy enthusiasm to do. So, fantastic. So, the next comment was on Claudia Miranda's show, which is that SSH urban SSH escape sequences, and it's from Windigo, who says, thanks to the episode, it feels like SSH escape sequences are secret commands, and I feel cooler for knowing about them. Very much so, yes. And on painting toy soldiers, by tattoo, where he started painting minatures for war games, Tukitora Stores says, it's a great show. I love listening, listening to you explaining about painting toy soldiers. I wanted to add that, if time needed to paint a 28mm figurine is too long, one can always try switching to a different scale. I enjoyed the 10mm inch, and it's because they're faster to paint and look quite nice from arm's lead, north from Ken. I don't think my eyesight would be able to handle any of that without a microscope. Yeah, yeah, you'd need to get one of those sort of jewelers to ask you the things that yeah, yeah, it's same here, really, same here. So, we have a comment on Andrew Conway's show, the Bronx of Glenel. Oh, it sounds great, yeah, it sounds like an incantation that you're saying as sellers, I'm aware of that. By the Bronx of Glenel, and it's from Windigo again, intriguing show topic he says. Now, I really did I enjoy your episode, I think the concept behind it is worth exploring. We have HPR hosts across the globe, and surely each of us lives near something worth an episode. Which is a brilliant point. I do, and you do like that point. Yes, indeed. Hello. Yep. Okay, cool. So, let's do the male list discussions. The male list, by the way, is a where the HPR community discusses forum and policy agenda, that sort of thing, our general inquiries to the community. So, can you do Mike's one, please? Yes, we have an email from Mike Ray, who asks any gaelic speakers on the list or gaelic, however you might pronounce it. Hello, public radio hackers. I sent this before, but I think, to the wrong address, are there any Scottish gaelic speakers on the list? The word Scottish is redundant in that sentence, and it's only there because some people think Irish can also be called gaelic or gaelic. I've just started to learn gaelic on your lingo, and it has me addicted. I would like to have the occasional chat with anybody who speaks both English and gaelic online. It was one teacher chat from Lewis, didn't spell it right, but never mind. But I cannot remember his name. That'll be heavy, of course. I started this because of my love for Scotland, and there's a better use of my downtime, the listening to endless books on allible. And I reply, I'm interested to know why you would say Irish is not gaelic. Are you perhaps thinking that Irish people speaking English language is the Irish language? And just side note here, that happens quite a lot in the Netherlands, and I give some links to the Irish language Wikipedia website and the National Broadcasters programs and gaelic. So you can listen to Irish the Irish language. To answer your question, I was fluid in gaelic having first level in a gaelic school, which is the Irish language school. There we learned everything including English using the Irish language. That said, it's been decades since I used it, although I can still follow Monster Irish, but gaelic and donny gael Irish is tough. I've been able to get the gist of some BBC Alba programs. Can you do Andrews? Yes, yes, sorry, it takes me a moment to change. No problem to find the thing they click on and move. In Scotland, this is from Andrew Conway. Scotland is gaelic, it's usually just called gaelic, pronounced gaelic. I see, is it phonemically? And Irish gaelic is pronounced gaelic, but often prefix of the word Irish. I understand in Ireland is not referred to as gaelic, I might speak because of the language. It's only the most erodot would know that outside Ireland. In fact, my uncle, who is from mother with Irish calls Irish gaelic. Yeah, that makes sense. Hi Andrew, as I said, again, I don't pretend to know I'm just repeating what some group had told me on Facebook, not and he also goes on to say, if I'm honest, I'm only a regurgitating with somebody told me I'm Facebook, I don't pretend to know. I asked some questions a local form and started a spat between the Scarlet who told us she only remembered enough gaelic to fill in the forms to get out of there, direct court. The other lady who, I guess, was either Irish or just typical Facebook lurking morning many. Interesting. I know a guy who came to work as a content tractor in a company in Ireland and specifically learned to speak gaelic before Irish gaelic before coming and then was shocked that nobody was able to speak it with him. Yes, I have a, they have a good ad on the other TV, you know, Angie Racismad, where they have a guy and on Irish gaelic, went into the pub and he's speaking Irish with the barman and some biggest tell some to fuck off back to his own country. Sorry, they're talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I could that could be real. Yeah, maybe be a real situation. Okay, in the last topic, in case of emergency, this is a discussion we had. I think it would mix, we had Kingsy, Kingsy, Kingsy, Kingsy, Kingsy, Kingsy, please do a show telling us how to pronounce your handle. Thank you. I think you would make sense to share some other way of contacting the individual, for example, by form. This could be done informally among a couple of people who somewhat trust each other and it seems like a reasonable precaution to me. Unfortunately, my understanding is the missing and action individual that helped bring up this question already had their full number. So it's enough foolproof correct. So Dave, what else do we do? Well, we have a few jottings under any other business. Go for it. So yeah, I just made some notes about how we're getting on with the site migration process. So we've moved, obviously moved the area site to the new location and we've been implementing all of the features there during, during August and a little bit before. And we've been updating links on documentation pages, which were, which were wrong, I think they're still our few that need, need work, but I've not checked. Moving, we've moved our SS fees from the dynamic part of the site to the static side. I think there's still some that haven't been moved, but I'm not, yeah. No, we absolutely sure. You've generated the, I've made them for you, but they have not been, they've not let me just, okay, should have, I should have asked you first. We've made the comment forms work the same as before. So you get different form depending on how old or ahead of the current date, the show is when you, when you go to the comment form, we've made tag tags clickable. But there's more work to be done there. There have been unicode problems. I've been mentioned before and there was still some issues, which I think we've solved, but seeing any evidence that they're not solved. Anyway, we've fixed small bugs like got the calculation or the software got the calculation wrong as to when to put up the call for show's message. So yeah, we've done that. There are a number of problems that are yet to be tackled, and probably the most high priority one is making links to pictures and other supplementary files work on shows that happen and less important, perhaps, is making links in comments clickable. You've had a number of helpful problem reports, but there've been many through the HBO channel on Matrix, and just to say that you can raise issues on the getee. So you need to have a username to authenticate first before you can do that. That's something that was implemented by Josh. So quite recently. So yeah, anything you have to point out that's problematic. Let us know and we'll, we'll add it to the queue and process it. Yeah, and to give you some idea of the time where the update in the documentation links is while you've been doing all the cool stuff fixing you to go, I've been doing immensely boring task of checking all the old links, fixing them, converting them to HTTPS, removing redundant page, consolidating everything into the above page, and I still have not finished, so it's all destroying the work. I'm getting through it. So the links are being fixed as just taking a long time to do it. Yeah, we did get a comment saying, oh, they were wrong on this page, but I think it was one of the pages that had been effectively made redundant by consolidating everything into one page. So it was, if the page gets lost, there will be anything to do to do. So, yeah, so it's going to be a while before those are fixed, maybe before the whole flu before the next community news show, and what else on that? Yeah, there's even though I'm just currently I'm taking the loose independent pages that we had and putting them into one big about page with anchor references in it. So that's still need, I still need to go through that and fix up to date everything once I've done all that. So it's basically take the old site and ruin, I put them into individual pages like we had them on the old site, but now we're consolidating them into the above page, and then I'll push that up first to fix all the links, and then I go back and at least the above page we can edit the text because all the documentation will be more or less on one page. Yeah, yeah, I'll make life a lot easier. Yeah, yeah, that'd be good, that'd be good. 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